William I, coronation, Christmas Day 1066. From British Library.

Here’s a smile for New Year’s Eve. Was it ever a 15th century mode—even for as briefly as a month—for men to, um, stick their bottoms out for the sake of fashion….? Look at the two gents talking lower centre in the image above. Are they or are they not adopting a stance that ensures protruding posteriors?

And what of the illustration below, in which the man in salmon pink on the left is, I believe, thought to be Richard, Duke of Gloucester?

There’s that backside again, stuck out as if it’s twice its actual size. Please don’t tell me men were expected to walk like that too. They’d resemble ducks!

Well, in medieval illustrations the ladies are shown as if in the middle-to-late stages of pregnancy. To make them seem fruitful and capable of multiple successful pregnancies. So why on earth would men draw attention to their derrières? That’s not the side that’s not the anatomical area that….well, you know.

from the The Arnolfini Portrait 

Maybe the two top illustrations that have drawn my attention to the posture are just an idiosyncrasy of the particular artist? My fingers are crossed. In the meantime I refuse to believe it. Richard did not walk or pose like this. It’s ridiculous. P-L-E-A-S-E let him have walked normally.

He did not WADDLE!

from brussels-express.eu


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  1. I wonder what they would think of some of the prominent posterior poses we see flashed around nowadays. On second thought, no, I don’t.

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  2. Well, I believe it was thought that men should have good legs, so that tight hose would show them off. I know some have suggested the salmon pink tunic guy is Richard, but I personally think Richard is the one in the long golden-brown robe. He’s standing close to Edward, he is wearing royal colours of rich blue and gold, and I think the face looks younger than any of the others.

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    1. I see what you mean, hoodedman. I also see the great likeness in the profiles of both figures, i.e. mine and yours in the post. From the nose to the prominent chin they look like the same man in different clothes. Might the one on the left be George? Although why he would be less grand than Richard I can’t say. So maybe they’re the other way around? George on the right, Richard still on the left? Then again, maybe they’re neither! ☺️

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      1. This painting was of an actual event in the house of Louis de Gruuthuse. That is Louis on the far left, Ed on the throne and the others are ?, possibly Richard, Anthony Woodville and Hastings, all of whom were there. George wasn’t in Burgundy with them–he was off being a traitor lol.

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      2. Ah, that sorts them. I’ve been immersed in the 14th century for so long that I’m a little rusty on the details of the 15th!

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  3. this is just a wild guess – is it something to do with the elongated shoes? the men are apparently in ‘deep conversation’ with each other – but are not standing too close together – they seem to be leaning in towards each other presumably to have a private talk. are they standing apart because of the footwear ? you would need a bit of a turning circle with those shoes – so maybe they are ‘assuming the position’ because they have to lean in towards each other? did they still wear that fashion in the mid 15thc? i thought it was from an earlier period – but some silly trends do seem to have longevity! i agree viscountess – i just cant have richard walking in any way other than with regal dignity. happy new year everyone.

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  4. Until now I thought the two men in salmon pink were guards or servants (because they are in uniform). Richard in a long robe because he is in deep blue. As an example https://www.facebook.com/LambethPalaceLibrary/photos/anthony-woodville-2nd-earl-rivers-was-killed-on-the-order-of-richard-iii-onthisd/2379304788800374/Happy new year everyone

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    1. Is the man on the left, in the short jacket, wearing the Order of the Garter?

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      1. I didn’t know about the Order of the Garter 😳

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  5. She is holding up her dress – which seems to be quite voluminous.

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