They are sharp and good for purposes both fair and foul, and might even be handy for some back-stabbing (should one be of that disposition!)

What am I talking about? The Stanley Knife.

Jokes abound on certain medieval groups about these multi purpose knives being something that should have been invented by the two side-shifting, game-playing Stanley Bros of the 15thc…so I thought I would endeavour to find out if there was indeed a connection.

Here is what I’ve found…

A WILLIAM Stanley invented the Stanley Knife. No, not the one who Henry Tudor executed when he suggested Perkin Warbeck might be the ‘real deal’ but William Stanley, born in Islington in 1829. He was the son of a mechanic called John Stanley and was a descendant of  Thomas Stanley–not THAT particular Thomas Stanley, but the one who wrote The History of Philosophy in the 17th c. Author-philosopher Stanley was the son of Sir Thomas Stanley of Cumberlow, who—and this is where it gets interesting—happened to be the grandson of  yet another Thomas Stanley (they loved the name Thomas, those Stanleys! Doubting Thomases?), an illegitimate son of Edward Stanley, third Earl of Derby. Edward Stanley was the son of Thomas Stanley (that name again!) the 2nd Earl, who was, in turn, the son of George Stanley…you might also know George as Lord Strange, who was held at Bosworth by  Richard for  the good behaviour of his father, THE Thomas Stanley.

(The story goes that Stanley said Richard could go ahead and execute poor old George  because he ‘had other sons’; this may be purely mythical, however. Other falsehoods about Lord Strange is that he was a hapless innocent child held hostage by the nasty ‘baddie’ Richard—he was at least 24-25 at the time of Bosworth, and some sources list him as older still. A further interesting fact is that his wife Joan’s  mother Jacquetta was sister to Elizabeth Woodville.)

And so this leads us to George Stanley’s father, who was, of course, was Thomas the Trimmer, first Earl of Derby, step-father to Henry Tudor and husband of Margaret Beaufort–so yes, one could indeed say the Stanley Knife is connected to that slippery lord and his kin.

I expect Lord Stanley would have approved.

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15 responses to “Stanley and the Stanley Knife”

  1. Love this! Thank you so much – I have always wondered if there was a connection and thought there should be, if not 🙂 Now I know.

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  3. […] from the seemingly effortless taking of Edinburgh to the Harrington dispute and the subsequent Stanley treachery at […]

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  4. […] year, we brought you the news that the developers of the Stanley knife were descended from Thomas, Baron Stanley, subsequently Earl of Derby. Now we can announce that a […]

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  5. […] grasping family do some good for once? Or did Northwich wish Richard had kept it? Who knows. The Stanleys were certainly expert at acquiring property and then hanging on to it—Northwich remained […]

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  6. […] “Tudor” won at Bosworth because Richard was betrayed, The switching of allegiance by Sir William Stanley was the sole reason Tudor emerged victorious, and is a known fact, not invention. It should have […]

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  7. […] stepfather) all but stabbed Richard in the back by turning on him at the vital moment. The Stanleys had pledged themselves to be Richard’s men, for Pete’s sake. With such friends, who needs […]

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  8. […] Harrington left two daughters – Anne was five and Elizabeth four at the time – and the Stanleys, assuming them to be their grandfather’s heirs, married them off to Edward (Thomas Lord […]

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  9. […] John Stanley (all these pesky John Stanleys! 😒and Isabel Lathom, and thus of a cadet branch of the main line (of ill repute to all Ricardians). But it would seem there wasn’t a John Stanley who died […]

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  10. […] I was particularly interested to learn that Wellington College had (and still has) a “Stanley House”, where the tactics taught presumably included watching conflicts, stabbing people in […]

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  11. […] murdered in person by Henrique, in a most savage fashion, aided by Bertrand du Guesclin, the “Stanley” of the situation. The following is from here and is the generally accepted view of Pedro’s […]

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  12. […] book, just the subject matter. You can read about the book  here. It includes some history of the Stanleys, showing how they reached the point they did at Bosworth. Boo-hiss to them, I say. But I do wish […]

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  13. […] were a blot of the English landscape and had no right to be on the throne at all. The odious name Stanley looms large. Their treachery killed Richard and we ended up with Henry VII. Thank you, Stanleys. […]

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  14. […] Arthur Stanley, the 16th Earl of Derby, was Governor General of Canada and the donor of the cup. He is listed in […]

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  15. […] features, a rather villainous character (oddly), but there’s no Francis Lovell and Hastings/ Stanley are mentioned but never appear on stage. You can’t have everyone I […]

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