In writing this, I have to own up that my copy of the book is signed by Ann Wroe in person. Our discussion confirmed that she retains an open mind on the youth’s identity, uncommon as that may be in writers on the period, but there are three possibilities:

1) He was the middle son of Edward IV, formerly the Duke of York in suo jure and Norfolk in jure uxoris.
2) He was a conscious impostor.
3) He was a fantasist – a random youth who believed himself to be the ex-Prince.

Now we all have to be careful about jumping to conclusions here. All suggestions of a “confession” or letters to “relatives” that can surely only be viewed through the prism of “Tudor” propaganda, especially as such could be composed without contradiction after his execution. Look at Tyrrell’s “confession”, which post-dates not merely his own death but that of Henry VII – thanks to Susan Leas (“As the King gave out”).

So what of the youth’s legal status in each case?
1) Henry’s repeal of Richard’s Titulus Regius would have made the ex-Prince legitimate, notwithstanding his father’s bigamy. His long campaign was surely to be King in his own right, implying that the former Edward V was either dead or uninterested and Richard of Shrewsbury would be the rightful King, to whom Henry should surrender.
2) The youth, whether literally a boatman’s son from Tournai, was almost certainly a foreign citizen and therefore owed Henry no fealty. There was some debate about this at William Joyce’s trial in that he claimed to be a British subject, so it mattered not that he wasn’t. However, the personage that the youth impersonated was not a subject.
3) The youth was a commoner who thought himself to be Richard of Shrewsbury and may well have been insane. “Tudor” “justice” had little interest in this – we see Edward of Warwick executed in the same week, Elizabeth Barton (1534) and Viscountess Rochford (1542), all of whom were deluded to some degree – and insanity was evidently not viewed as a defence.


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14 responses to ““Perkin” again ….”

  1. Faces don’t lie. It’s always struck me as significant that Henry VII wanted Perkin’s face obliterated beyond recognition well before he went to the block. Why destroy the man’s face unless he resembled the father he claimed?

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  2. I did not know that, about obliterating his face. How horrible.

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  3. Of course He could have been one of Edward’s bastard children that we are unaware of. Especially given his familial traits

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    1. “… one of Edward’s bastard children …” – there is some other kind?

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  4. […] of Tyrrell’s “confession”, although we now know, thanks to Susan Leas (quoted in https://murreyandblue.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/perkin-again/) that this post-dates not merely Tyrrell’s life but that of Henry VII because the latter […]

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  5. […] turned coat again to join a Yorkist plot against Henry. Sir William believed the claimant Perkin Warbeck really was the younger son of Edward IV, Richard, Duke of York, and wanted Edward IV’s proper […]

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  6. […] you go to this link this article you’ll find an interesting if challengeable article about “Perkin Warbeck” and whether he could or could not have been Richard of Shrewsbury. Well, there were enough […]

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  7. […] fork out £10 to listen to him lecturing that poor old Henry VII was beset by wicked imposters and pretenders? I think not. Not even 10p! Especially as poor Edward, Earl of Warwick didn’t pretend to be […]

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  8. […] again, of course, the most prominent challenger to the throne of Henry VII, one Perkin Warbeck, was to “confess” that far from being a son of Edward IV he was actually the offspring of a […]

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  9. […] dressed as a hermit. There are some probable errors in it, but it resembles the letters of “Perkin” to the monarchs of Europe before he was tortured. Could father (as William le Galeys) and […]

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  10. […] to produce any “evidence”, particularly when two individuals appeared claiming to be one or both of those “Princes” in 1487 and […]

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  11. […] dead, whilst not providing any details. Eventually, Henry claimed that the youth was one “Perkin Warbeck/ Warbecque” or “Piers Osbeck”, a missing boatman’s son from Dubai. Following his […]

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  12. […] IV and Richard III and possibly her nephew,  Richard of Shrewsbury, Duke of York then known as Perkin Warbeck.  I say ‘may’ but I am 100% certain it is these two people.  I’ll return to this later. […]

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  13. […] confusion between the later Stewart kings. The third and fourth books cover the evidence in the “Perkin” case and for the pre-contract, whilst the last part is a general conclusion about Richard’s […]

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