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The living Henry VII married the late Mary of York….!

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“….Edward III’s great-great-grandsons then fought in the 15th century War of the Roses which put infamous King Richard III on the throne….

“….Henry VII eventually took over from him, backed by his marriage to Mary of York, and produced Henry VIII, who created Protestantism via the 16th-century reformation….”

The above is an extract from this Express article

For Pete’s sake! The INFAMOUS Richard III? 🤬 And how the heck did Henry VII manage to marry Mary of York???? 🤔 He certainly kept that one quiet, especially as she died a number of years before he was heaved on to the throne with the help of a hodge-podge of miserable traitors. I didn’t bother reading the whole article…. A load of old codswallop as far as Ricardians are concerned. And as for all the great-great-greats – spare me.

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  1. sighthound6 Avatar
    sighthound6

    Henry VIII was not a Protestant either. He was a Catholic who wanted to be his own Pope. He executed both Protestants and (proper) Catholics. Protestantism was brought in under Edward VI. Mary I returned to Catholicism. Elizabeth I brought in a weaker form of Protestantism than her brother, that some people to this day consider a variant of Catholicism. (The Church of England is a very broad church indeed, perhaps best described as a fudge.)

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    1. super blue Avatar
      super blue

      His Reformation was effectively a management buy-out.

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  2. Elizabeth Bradley Avatar
    Elizabeth Bradley

    This is off topic, but sighthound6’s comment made me think….if you took away Elizabeth I, would history take a harsher view of the Tudors?

    Elizabeth I was not always a paragon of virtue; but her flaws have mostly been airbrushed out of history in favor of her achievements (which, to be fair, were impressive). Love her or hate her, Gloriana is undeniable.

    If you take Elizabeth I away though, what’s left? The greedy grasping paranoia of Henry VII? Henry VIII, the vicious wife murdering tyrant?? Bloody Mary???

    Of course I’m not taking into account here the tragically young and doomed Edward VI and Jane Grey; but (despite lacking the villainous reputations of their relatives) neither of them lived or reigned long enough to bolster the Tudors’ reputation.

    So, if there was no Elizabeth I, what then? Would the Tudors still be so admired in some quarters or would they receive a much more negative critique from historians and the general public? Although I’m not enamored of Elizabeth myself, I tend to think that the Tudors would have far fewer fans without her.

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